Of course I had problems growing up, more with my father than with my mother. From the time I started school when I was five years old my mother was afraid of me. She knew that I was quick, and I was extremely stubborn; I was known for that in the family, and she didn't really want to cross me. And she didn't, there was no need to. I did all my homework, I hung out with the right guys and so on. My father, when I became an adolescent, became to be very unnerved by my independence. And when I… my last year in high school, my first year of college, he was driving me crazy and we had a tremendous fight once, a verbal fight. And my brother said afterwards about that verbal fight, not too many years ago, he said to me, 'You claimed your independence that day'. But it was very painful to claim, it was very painful to claim.

When I had problems, who did I talk to? I talked to my brother. I didn't know who else there was to talk to. I had no teacher I could talk to. None of us did, really, although they were probably intelligent people, but it never dawned on me I could take a family problem in to my teachers.