I should comment that the job of dean was one of the more difficult ones I've had. It wasn't only Dean, my title was Executive Vice President for Health Sciences, so I was overseeing the medical school, the dental school, the school of public health, and there's another school in there, but I had ultimate authority for that. That plus dealing with the hospital, which had just merged, Presbyterian and New York Hospital, and was determined to make money, not lose money. They often were approaching the same sources that I was, the medical school. They wanted more share of the intellectual property, so did the university. Here, the dean, the EVP struggled between the hospital and the university, both of whom are very powerful organizations.

I learned a lot, I was challenged, but it was not my favorite job.