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Jan Józef Lipski Social activist
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I have to say that when I was flying from London to Warsaw, the idea kept coming back to me that who knows if I wasn't going to be the first person to experience banishment – I'd arrive at the airport, get bundled into some plane and I would end up at a destination that I had no intention of arriving at. And I started to think where could they put me, and I don't know, perhaps I misjudged him but I thought that perhaps Mr Krajski would welcome me in Vienna. Because of this, I spent the entire flight from London composing a speech in my head in German, a language I know, though not very well, so that I could make an unprepared speech in which I accused Mr Krajski and Austria of slave-trading which is severely punished according to international conventions dating back to the 18th century, but I didn't get the chance to make this and many other speeches – I had various other ones that I'd prepared, for instance for the end of the Ursus trial, really nice ones that I'd prepared in the night when I was lying there in the dark – I was denied the opportunity to make them and so that accusation of slave-trading levelled at Mr Krajski turned out to be abstract.

Muszę powiedzieć, że kiedy leciałem z Londynu do Warszawy, to tłukło mi się po głowie, że kto wie, czy ja nie będę pierwszy, wobec którego się zastosuje banicję – przyjadę na lotnisko, tam wpakują mnie od jakiegoś samolotu i okaże się, że jestem zupełnie nie tam, gdzie zamierzałem. I tak myślałem, gdzie właściwie mogliby mnie usadowić, i nie wiem, może skrzywdziłem go, ale pomyślałem, że pan Krajski może by mnie przyjął w Wiedniu. I w związku z tym cały czas z Londynu... lecąc z Londynu, układałem sobie w głowie przemówienie po niemiecku, w języku, który znam, ale nie tak świetnie, żeby bez przygotowania mu przemówienie wygłosić, że oskarżam pana Krajskiego i Austrię o handel niewolnikami, który według konwencji międzynarodowych już w XVIII wieku w Europie zawartych jest surowo karany, ale nie miałem okazji do wygłoszenia tego przemówienia jak i zresztą różnych innych przemówień – bo na zakończenie procesu ursuskiego też miałem przygotowane przemówienie, naprawdę bardzo ładne, nocami układane, gdy leżałem na łóżku w ciemności, też nie miałem okazji wygłosić – więc również to oskarżenie pana Krajskiego o handel niewolnikami okazało się bezprzedmiotowe.

Jan Józef Lipski (1926-1991) was one of Poland's best known political activists. He was also a writer and a literary critic. As a soldier in the Home Army (Armia Krajowa), he fought in the Warsaw Uprising. In 1976, following worker protests, he co-founded the Workers' Defence Committee (KOR). His active opposition to Poland's communist authorities led to his arrest and imprisonment on several occasions. In 1987, he re-established and headed the Polish Socialist Party. Two years later, he was elected to the Polish Senate. He died in 1991 while still in office. For his significant work, Lipski was honoured with the Cross of the Valorous (Krzyż Walecznych), posthumously with the Grand Cross of the Order of Polonia Restituta (1991) and with the highest Polish decoration, the Order of the White Eagle (2006).

Listeners: Marcel Łoziński Jacek Petrycki

Film director Marcel Łoziński was born in Paris in 1940. He graduated from the Film Directing Department of the National School of Film, Television and Theatre in Łódź in 1971. In 1994, he was nominated for an American Academy Award and a European Film Academy Award for the documentary, 89 mm from Europe. Since 1995, he has been a member of the American Academy of Motion Picture Art and Science awarding Oscars. He lectured at the FEMIS film school and the School of Polish Culture of Warsaw University. He ran documentary film workshops in Marseilles. Marcel Łoziński currently lectures at Andrzej Wajda’s Master School for Film Directors. He also runs the Dragon Forum, a European documentary film workshop.

Cinematographer Jacek Petrycki was born in Poznań, Poland in 1948. He has worked extensively in Poland and throughout the world. His credits include, for Agniezka Holland, Provincial Actors (1979), Europe, Europe (1990), Shot in the Heart (2001) and Julie Walking Home (2002), for Krysztof Kieslowski numerous short films including Camera Buff (1980) and No End (1985). Other credits include Journey to the Sun (1998), directed by Jesim Ustaoglu, which won the Golden Camera 300 award at the International Film Camera Festival, Shooters (2000) and The Valley (1999), both directed by Dan Reed, Unforgiving (1993) and Betrayed (1995) by Clive Gordon both of which won the BAFTA for best factual photography. Jacek Petrycki is also a teacher and a filmmaker.

Tags: London, Warsaw, Ursus trial, Stanisław Krajski

Duration: 3 minutes, 19 seconds

Date story recorded: October 1989

Date story went live: 14 March 2011