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The first 'in'. Working on 'Fantasia': the importance of dance


The world of learning how
Jules Engel Film-maker
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I never studied anything when it comes to films. I generally, what happens is I enter in some university, whatever, you know? And - or an art school… art school is more of an idea. And then you go there and by the second day I know I had it. So the most time I ever spent in the world of learning how, less than always two days. And then I was on my own again. But that's just me. Maybe for somebody else it's different. They need that. But I didn't need that and so that was that, you know? And eventually what… what came from getting a job at some place and then learn something on the premises. And that was the beginning, yeah.

The late Hungarian-American film-maker Jules Engel is best known for his contribution to the field of animation. His work includes the dance sequences in Walt Disney's 'Fantasia' and the creation of 'Mr Magoo'. His films and lithographs are housed in museums all over the world and have won many awards.

Listeners: Bill Moritz Tamara Tracz

William Moritz received his doctorate from USC and pursues parallel careers as filmmaker and writer. His forty-four experimental and animation films have been screened at museums in Paris, Amsterdam and Tokyo, among others. He published widely on Oskar Fischinger, James Whitney, Bruce Conner, the Fleischers and 200 pages of animation history for an AbsolutVodka website. He wrote chapters for the "Oxford History of Cinema", appeared in several television documentaries, curated art exhibits and received a lifetime achievement trophy from the Netherlands Royal Academy for his work with visual music. He has served on film festival juries and received an American Film Institute filmmaking grant. His poetry and plays are also performed and published. He is a leading expert of Oskar Fischinger and recently published a biography of him. He teaches at The California Institute of the Arts.

Tamara Tracz is a writer and filmmaker based in London.

Tags: university, learning, films, drawing, art

Duration: 53 seconds

Date story recorded: April 2003

Date story went live: 24 January 2008