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Other Disney animators; 'You have it or you don't have it'


Ward Kimball
Jules Engel Film-maker
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He was, he was an awesome talent. Ward Kimball was an awesome talent. An obnoxious somebody, unpleasant in many ways, but he was a large talent, a large, large talent. And a nice, he's still a nice person but I felt a talent as he was… and he was good. He still stayed at Disney, no matter how they pushed him around, you know? And instead of going someplace which, any door would be open for him, you know? No, he liked it there. And I had no right to say to him, 'Don't. Move'. But I couldn't do that because it was up to him, you know? But, that's again when you deal with the talent. And he was a large talent and a good person, good person. But I somehow always had this little, tiny grudge: 'Dammit, Ward, go someplace, where you can just run the whole shop, you know?' But no, no, he stayed there. Even, no matter how Walt was whacking around or kicking him around, you know? But that's his life and he had a good life, yeah.

The late Hungarian-American film-maker Jules Engel is best known for his contribution to the field of animation. His work includes the dance sequences in Walt Disney's 'Fantasia' and the creation of 'Mr Magoo'. His films and lithographs are housed in museums all over the world and have won many awards.

Listeners: Bill Moritz Tamara Tracz

William Moritz received his doctorate from USC and pursues parallel careers as filmmaker and writer. His forty-four experimental and animation films have been screened at museums in Paris, Amsterdam and Tokyo, among others. He published widely on Oskar Fischinger, James Whitney, Bruce Conner, the Fleischers and 200 pages of animation history for an AbsolutVodka website. He wrote chapters for the "Oxford History of Cinema", appeared in several television documentaries, curated art exhibits and received a lifetime achievement trophy from the Netherlands Royal Academy for his work with visual music. He has served on film festival juries and received an American Film Institute filmmaking grant. His poetry and plays are also performed and published. He is a leading expert of Oskar Fischinger and recently published a biography of him. He teaches at The California Institute of the Arts.

Tamara Tracz is a writer and filmmaker based in London.

Tags: Ward Kimball, Walt Disney

Duration: 1 minute, 22 seconds

Date story recorded: April 2003

Date story went live: 24 January 2008