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All I need is a kitchen table


Benefits of retrospection
Jules Engel Film-maker
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That happens often and then I just put it aside. Just put that aside. No, that happens a lot. And the interesting thing is, when you put it away and don't try to solve it, because it should have been just happening, then you pick it up again and you look at it and you say, 'Oh for Christ sake, what was the problem? I don't see any problem, it just needs a little yellow'. You know? Then I'm putting it together. Simple as that. And you'll be surprised, often you come back on a painting and you see. How come I missed that? How come I didn't know what colour I need? It happened some years ago with a fairly large painting at the County Museum, the year-end show. And I had a fairly large painting there and a portion of it was a problem. And then I walked into the museum of painting and I come up to this painting that I have not seen for 2, 3months, you know. And I looked at it, I said, oh my God, I know what's the problem, I just want to take this damn thing off the wall, take it home and make the change. But you see, it took that time to be away from it, and then when you saw it, fresh, boom, there it was. It was no problem. You know exactly what was wrong with the continuity of the painting and all you wanted to do is just to get it home and open it up and make the change. But that's, that's painting, you know? That's just part of it, part of it.

The late Hungarian-American film-maker Jules Engel is best known for his contribution to the field of animation. His work includes the dance sequences in Walt Disney's 'Fantasia' and the creation of 'Mr Magoo'. His films and lithographs are housed in museums all over the world and have won many awards.

Listeners: Tamara Tracz Bill Moritz

Tamara Tracz is a writer and filmmaker based in London.

William Moritz received his doctorate from USC and pursues parallel careers as filmmaker and writer. His forty-four experimental and animation films have been screened at museums in Paris, Amsterdam and Tokyo, among others. He published widely on Oskar Fischinger, James Whitney, Bruce Conner, the Fleischers and 200 pages of animation history for an AbsolutVodka website. He wrote chapters for the "Oxford History of Cinema", appeared in several television documentaries, curated art exhibits and received a lifetime achievement trophy from the Netherlands Royal Academy for his work with visual music. He has served on film festival juries and received an American Film Institute filmmaking grant. His poetry and plays are also performed and published. He is a leading expert of Oskar Fischinger and recently published a biography of him. He teaches at The California Institute of the Arts.

Tags: art

Duration: 1 minute, 38 seconds

Date story recorded: April 2003

Date story went live: 24 January 2008