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Anaïs Nin


Lack of stamina in the young
Jules Engel Film-maker
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That is the big problem with people because they always feel they're tired. You know? I have this student, you know, I think he's in his early 20's, you know? He's out now for a couple of years. And I call him and I say, 'What have you been doing? Have you done anything new?' What do I get back? 'Jules, you know, I'm five days at the studio and I'm tired'. But hell, at your age how can you be tired, you know? But, you know, they don't do anything. So they make a living, make a good living, all that is good and it's important because they have kids. But they say, 'I'm tired'. Well, that's [unclear]. Only out of the hundreds that I had as students... they're big talents, they're all over the place... there's only two girls, three girls that are doing work. They're teaching and they're still doing their own stuff. And they're all good, they're very good. But that's a tiny number. Three out of about 1500 or something like that. But they will all say, I'm tired. Well, what can I say? If she tells me she's tired then I think, that's it, you're finished, you know? To a degree. But, naturally, if you see good talent, you try to push, you try to talk to her or him, as I do. But if they physically not up to it, there's not a damn thing you can do. And that's what it's all about. Why I do have this amount of energy? I don't know. But I have no problem of performing. As… as I do, I produce as much as I did 20 years ago, everything. But when he says, 'I'm tired', what are you going to tell him? There's nothing I can do.

The late Hungarian-American film-maker Jules Engel is best known for his contribution to the field of animation. His work includes the dance sequences in Walt Disney's 'Fantasia' and the creation of 'Mr Magoo'. His films and lithographs are housed in museums all over the world and have won many awards.

Listeners: Bill Moritz Tamara Tracz

William Moritz received his doctorate from USC and pursues parallel careers as filmmaker and writer. His forty-four experimental and animation films have been screened at museums in Paris, Amsterdam and Tokyo, among others. He published widely on Oskar Fischinger, James Whitney, Bruce Conner, the Fleischers and 200 pages of animation history for an AbsolutVodka website. He wrote chapters for the "Oxford History of Cinema", appeared in several television documentaries, curated art exhibits and received a lifetime achievement trophy from the Netherlands Royal Academy for his work with visual music. He has served on film festival juries and received an American Film Institute filmmaking grant. His poetry and plays are also performed and published. He is a leading expert of Oskar Fischinger and recently published a biography of him. He teaches at The California Institute of the Arts.

Tamara Tracz is a writer and filmmaker based in London.

Tags: teaching, film, students, young, talent

Duration: 2 minutes, 17 seconds

Date story recorded: April 2003

Date story went live: 29 September 2010