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You know, you know, forget the comment earlier about... whereas here in America, the direction of Disney was huge but I think it got even bigger. I think it was even bigger than Europe, because they are more aware of that aspect of it. Here, we are more aware of what happens. Over there, in Europe, it's also why it happens, how come it happens? Where are we going to go with this now? Now that we got stuck with this situation. We are we going to go? They go deeper into that aspect of it, which is, which is good. Which is something which has got little bit more rewards. But we're more involved on the surface and we somehow stop there. And so when UPA came about with this stuff, it was like a fresh air just blown into the, into the whole industry. And all it took is four or five people. But what it also took, it took a studio... they said, 'Okay, give me [Mr] Magoo and then I don't give a damn what else you want to do, but you can do four other films. Because I want you to deliver so many films a year'. So, so many film a year meant we'd do four for them and then even if we only can do two a year, but then we're going to do something very special. And we did it very special and therefore it's still there. It's still there.

The late Hungarian-American film-maker Jules Engel is best known for his contribution to the field of animation. His work includes the dance sequences in Walt Disney's 'Fantasia' and the creation of 'Mr Magoo'. His films and lithographs are housed in museums all over the world and have won many awards.

Listeners: Tamara Tracz Bill Moritz

Tamara Tracz is a writer and filmmaker based in London.

William Moritz received his doctorate from USC and pursues parallel careers as filmmaker and writer. His forty-four experimental and animation films have been screened at museums in Paris, Amsterdam and Tokyo, among others. He published widely on Oskar Fischinger, James Whitney, Bruce Conner, the Fleischers and 200 pages of animation history for an AbsolutVodka website. He wrote chapters for the "Oxford History of Cinema", appeared in several television documentaries, curated art exhibits and received a lifetime achievement trophy from the Netherlands Royal Academy for his work with visual music. He has served on film festival juries and received an American Film Institute filmmaking grant. His poetry and plays are also performed and published. He is a leading expert of Oskar Fischinger and recently published a biography of him. He teaches at The California Institute of the Arts.

Tags: Mr Magoo

Duration: 1 minute, 41 seconds

Date story recorded: April 2003

Date story went live: 24 January 2008